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Reflections on Talks in the Pines 2009- before and after

Our annual event, "Talks in the Pines," ended a few days ago. It consisted of 5 days of illuminating and encouraging talks by Guy, interactions with visiting students, and all the preparation and follow-through that goes with this kind of event.  I have had the privilege of being involved in every one of the ten previous TIPS and this was by far the most powerful.

The talks were centered this year on using life's disturbances instead of being used by them.  Every year - no fail - there are major disturbances in my life both before and after the event. The week before I wrote in my blog about  "Negativity Stew." The week after the event proved to be a confluence of major disturbing forces.  The elements in my life that have the potential of "rocking my boat" sent me through the "Perfect Storm" this week. I was mad or upset with just about everybody and everything in my life.

It begs the question, what's the value of the talks if they can't help you through the storms?  I certainly have heard enough talks on the subject of disturbance to help me navigate the rough waters when I encounter them. Why can't I be like George Clooney standing tall, fearless and taking his trawler ship straight up the wall of a 60-foot wave.  Why because I rarely utilize the moment when the disturbance arrives to practice what I have been shown in the talks. No teacher or organization can do it for me. The talks are seeds of right ideas (truth) that are intended to be planted in our hearts, watered by disturbance then reach for the light to grow into maturity.  I have to go into the disturbance alone. The talks and the teacher are only there to show us what is possible when we're willing to lay down this strong tendency to be right.  If we weren't tested individually we could never possess the life our heart is longing for.  But I have yet to welcome the disturbance.

When we learned to ride a bike we had to be willing to fall and handle a few bruises. It was worth it to us because it offered a new freedom that we didn't currently possess. If we fell down we got back up because we wanted to have our own life (free from our parents) and learning to ride was the ticket. Once we practiced over and over we eventually learned the balance and attention needed to command that bike.  Then it became a useful vehicle to take us places we hadn't seen before.  But in order to be safe we still had to be alert and watchful of the traffic, potholes and other potential dangers that could knock us off our bike.  The same is true of inner life

If I am out of balance interiorly it should be evident by "my" anger, worry or stress.  But something has convinced me that it's necessary and natural to be upset, and that resistance is my proper default position. My wish now is to investigate this out-of- balance nature when it is out of balance. That's what my last three weeks lessons have been trying to show me.  Life is handing me exactly what I need to see about myself to be free of this false nature but my first response is still protection and resistance. So I will work to be still. I watched the wind gently pass through the trees just now outside my window. The trees simply moved with the wind, no resistance no need to protect itself.

One last thing, that I have found absolutely true, is to always stay close to the source of help that keeps you aligned with God's life when all the inner voices are telling you to do otherwise. Our old habits are ingrained and die hard and they will try everything to keep you away from the truth and keep their painful ways in place. What's amazing is that we are offered freedom in exchange for our pain. It sounds like a pretty fair deal to me.

"Always now -just now - come into being
 Always now -just now - give your self to death"  - Zen saying

Doug Norby/Alive Guide Host/6/27/09








 

Comments

 

Bill said:

This year Talks in the Pines was better than ever. Each year they (the students, and Guy) always exceed what was done the year before.

The talks were very powerful. Guy explains the information in such a unique way. The stories, the pauses, and even the volume make all of the talks so interesting.

When life brings you events and situations that cause a disturbance in you. It can be anger, frustration, anxiety or fear. Instead of getting lost in thought, wanting to blame someone or something.  It?s life?s way of showing you a part of you that you may not know existed or have decided to identify with and claim as yours. You don?t have to do either one. Awareness? in and of the moment allows you to see it, understand the emotion for what it is, not by rejecting the moment but by staying with it, observing that it is a part of you that needs to go and letting the only power in the universe that can facilitate change handle it. Daily life offers endless opportunities to grow.

I like you Doug have a long way to go. Even though I feel I understand it, and what I?m supposed to do I don?t always do it.  More often than not I let myself get pulled into the same mechanical feeling and thoughts I have done for a hundred years. Yet there are times that I do catch my self and see what life is trying to tell me. The big ones are easier to see that all the small ones. Maybe there is hope.

If you have never been to one of Guys talks you need to go. It is a great experience and one you will never forget.

Thank You for all you do.

Bill

June 29, 2009 1:26 PM [Delete]
 

Truthsgal said:

Disturbance is such a great topic and during our Talks in the Pines there was ample opportunity for all of us here at the foundation to work with this. In my own work I have found if there is ever going to be a new relationship with these disturbances there has to be a real interest in them if we are ever going to be free from them.

Imagine you are in a beautiful meadow at the foot of this great mountain range, maybe Yosemite and you stop for a break by a creek or small pond after hiking all morning to have a drink of water and rest and as you are sitting there, you see deer wandering into the meadow to drink from the creek and there are a pair of jack rabbits that hop through and maybe even some elk in the distance and because you are sitting there quiet you are a part of all the activity, the sound of the creek, the wresting of the leaves. There is nothing that enters the meadow that you are unaware of and all that you see is not only happening outside of you but inside of you as well, striking a chord of the most sweet kind. You are not resisting what is happening you are allowing it into your space and it is living through you.

Life is suppose to be like that instead of being a passive observer to the disturbances that visit us everyday and allowing the universe to play out its life through us we are instantaneously active to push away and resolve what we think doesn?t belongs in the field of our lives. Just as we can see the whole activity of the meadow we can begin to see the whole content of ourselves if we will be there to experience it.

We need to be alert to all of these thoughts and feelings coursing through s, seeing if what they are tell us is true or not. It is like entering the meadow and seeing the whole content of the field at once, its atmosphere and its space, then we can begin to see everything entering into our consciousness. To see and be aware of our thoughts makes us sensitive and allows awareness to enter. The key is not to condemn or judge, but to just be there to be a part of our lives.

June 29, 2009 1:34 PM [Delete]
 

wcattin said:

Hello Truthgal,

Is your last paragraph speaks of what Guy Finley refers to as "to suffer consciously" ?

July 1, 2009 11:37 PM [Delete]
 

Truthsgal said:

Wcattin,

To be aware of what we are in the moment and do nothing toward it but see it, I think this is the beginning of conscious suffering. Guy puts it this way:

"We can end our presently punishing relationship with unconscious suffering, and by our inner work awaken to the creative movement of Life within us, and that sustains and activates our universe. Then we participate in change vs. feeling conflicted over it!"

July 4, 2009 8:03 PM [Delete]
 

Truthsgal said:

The moment my eyes opened this morning, there was a negative thought that passed through me about how someone had done me wrong along with all the reasons and justifications for why I should be frustrated and angry. I remembered our conversation about conscious suffering so I decide to stay as quiet as I could and just consciously watch my mind, and suspend my participation in the inner dialogue.

What I found was everything that my mind was telling me was half truths, it was only half the story and being alert to its activity allowed me to see this. One cannot suffer in the same way when they begin to see their part in the interactions of life. What I wanted from the situation was coloring my view. There is no justification for hurting ourselves because of what others do.

July 6, 2009 12:38 PM [Delete]
 

wcattin said:

Thank you Truthgal for your answer and your last testimony.

I totally see what you mean. This egocentrist nature always rewrites the story and justifies all the feelings it needs to maintain the illusion. If I am honest, I must say that it also includes short-lived excitements and joys, plus all the palette of negative thoughts and feelings. A very faithful and talkative companion. It never fails to deliver the same sauces. It welcomes with open arms the disturbances (" lavish food, a lot to chew on").

Williams

July 7, 2009 1:54 AM [Delete]